Comments / Messages :: Topic :: Mud flow in East Java ( Main page )
- Arthur Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:53 pm, reference page ) : This is terrible, all those poor people. why on earth aren't you plastering it across every TV program in the world? Most people saw it once and as far as the media is concerned it is old news. (But not the people) we are most concerned.
- IIN ( Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:36 am, reference page ) : Interesting pictures. A very valuable documentation. It seemed the area is unsafe for a drilling activity. Where is in the world that drilling activity caused disaster like this one in Sidoarjo?. It was a fatal mistake on geological data interpretation prior to the activity.
- Hardi Prasetyo, vice chairman BPLS ( Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:04 am, reference page ) : Response to Sarah Rennie: I would like to inform you that in 3 June 08 becomed a critical moment becasue the Big Hole or Eruption Centre has experienced with the recurrent interval 'sudden collapse' with intensity sag-like subsidence ranges 4-7 m in one night. That almost double with the first interval in which sudden collapse of eruption centre is already wide accepted in 3m. Recently the there is a signigicant changed in geometry of previously cone to a creater like-basin. See in new image!
- Eric ( Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:27 am, reference page ) : what if another hole was drilled next to the ocean ? whould that cause the mud to erupt from the second hole and releave pressure on the first hole then allow it to be capped.
- Eric ( Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:22 am, reference page ) : wow ! this is amazing, its too bad for the people that are affected , i wonder what will happen to the big hole that will be left behind, the heated water is making slurry out of the clay and dirt under the ground and pushing it up out of the top, that will leave a hugh void under ground where the clay and dirt used to be... right ?
- BS ( Sunday, June 8, 2008 3:51 pm, reference page ) : I read that the government decided to stop trying to elevate the levee in order to contain the continuing mud flow. The above photo seems to show that they have channalized the mud into the river already. Although I have never been a one of those environment protection fanatics, in this case I have to agree that tons of mud introduced into the river will probably end up plugging it up, and creating a meandering river which will damage the river itself, destroy thousands of acres of adjacent.
- Sarah Rennie
( Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:44 am, reference page ) : We have started a group called the Australian Sidoarjo Assistance Project to help achieve a long-term, sustainable and fair solution to the mud-flow disaster through community, corporate and government engagement. We are trying to get more information about what proposals any engineers have put forward for dealing with the mud-flow. We are particularly worried about the possible collapse of the containment walls and the mounting pressure on the chamber- what needs to be done most urgently???
- Budi Santosa
( Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:06 am, reference page ) : Until from now the new bublles rise from the land occur at Siring vallage Tanggulangin Distric Sidoarjo Resident in East Java and it's follows the leaking gas that high LEL value so dangerous to be burn or explosive . There's no worst scanario that had be made by BPLS / government so it's will be really dissaster for people on Porong or Tanggulangin Distric Sidoajo Resident East Java Indonesia.
- Webmaster : Dear all, there was no imaging attempt by the IKONOS satellite over the mudflow area in Dec 2007 due to very cloudy weather condition over the region. However there was one imaging attempt by SPOT 5 satellite in 31 Dec 2007 and the image is now at http://www.crisp.nus.edu.sg/coverages/mudflow/index_SP_p4.html
- Terry O'Malley, CEO, PMI
( Wednesday, January 2, 2008 11:30 am, reference page ) : Since the consensus is that the mud cannot be prevented from flowing out; then tap into the mud at the well heat and convert the kinetic energy to mechanical, using it as a power source for the surrounding areas.
- Nanto Prasetyo ( Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:12 pm, reference page ) : updated photo concerning Sidoarjo's hot mud flow, please visit http://picasaweb.google.com/nantoprasetyo
- Hardi Prasetyo (Waka BPLS) ( Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:55 am
, reference page ) : I have been monitoring and evaluating the development Lusi mud volcano using October satellite image, including lusi drainage pattern in the pond, the progress developing, maintaining of dams. This month our focus attention for normalizing the Porong River from sedimentation. I integrated Crips image with GIS MapInfo and interactive management using combination Google Earth and CRISPS. It's very exiting and Interesting, visit http://www.freewebs.com/wakabpls/
- Hardi Prasetyo (Waka BPLS) ( Saturday, November 10, 2007 3:13 pm
, reference page ) : In advance stage using CRISPS satellite image I have been integrating these data set by using (1) GIS MapInfo, merged partial images, registered coordinate, image characterized; and (2) Googele Earth, we can use point, line, polygon to manage Lusi Information with interactivly. I used October's image for monitoring the Lusi drainage pattern as sediment gravity flow. I am focusing effort for flowing Lusi to the Madura Strait by using Porong River as a media transport sedimant.
- Max Pohan
( Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:48 pm
, reference page ) : thank you. it is a very good image. I was there on the next day of the image (20 sept 2007) for the first time. amazing but horrible at the same time. I suggest to all that it's an earth fact that worth to see. I wait for latest image from CRISP. Thanks again.
- Shaktyai
( Monday, September 10, 2007 2:11 pm
, reference page ) : I think building levees was an error because the contained mud weight increases the pressure inside the mud chamber. As a result the flow of mud increases (it has doubled since the beginning: pretty much alike squeezing out tooth past )and the roof of the chamber caves in.
- Hardi Prasetyo, vice chairmen, BPLS ( Saturday, September 8, 2007 7:45 am
, reference page ) : I have been developing a satellite image characters Map of Siring Mud, for day by day monitoring and evaluating the development of Lusi (Mud Siring. Including the all coveraged image area (7 August imange), main pond (central area), PerumTAS Pond (north), Mindi Pond (southwest), Relief-1 Pond (west), and Siring Pond. Very interesting in August Image, we can see a clear east-west and southeast trending lineaments, that crossing the mudflow draineage pattern. We cross thes lineaments with GPR.
- priyo ( Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:13 pm, reference page ) : hai, i like u'r satellite images. but, i wan to see at under the mud flow. the geologis of under ground. maybe u have the picture it or the website were i can find it. plz and thanks.
- Ihsan Isikyildiz ( Tuesday, August 14, 2007 12:35 pm, reference page ) : 6JULY07 10am I climbed the dam,increased tourism activity,railway track clear. rice fields alive but no birds, road wet but traffic ok both directions. Whole area is waiting to give some value back.But how the required capital can be raised?INDONESIA deserves high growth of tourist arrivals. It's as safe as any other country, magnificient land with nice people. the fraction of the cost elsewere.
- Peter Jennings ( Monday, July 30, 2007 11:40 am, reference page ) : The link on the CRISP site to the UN Report on the mud flow no longer works. I can transmit it to you as a PDF attachment if you would like to post it. Also, does anyone know if there was any effect (positive or negative) to placing the concrete balls in the vent?
- Hardi Prasetyo ( Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:13 pm, reference page ) : In this afternoon I used the last Sidoarjo Mudflow satellite image date 14 July for evaluating the actual condition. In overall the mudvolcano geometry can be seen more clearly. The outer ring dams which have revitalized by the government also can be traced very clearly. Surprise we can identifie a lineament nne-sse trendeng across the main mud dam, which clearly crossing the drainage mud flow pattern, that we worry as a new active fault? Any persons willing to really come please contact me.
- Samiaji Bintang ( Monday, June 25, 2007 6:31 pm, reference page ) : Great images! I can see the region prior to and after mud flow swallowed from these images. Thanks.
- Dr Hardi Prasetyo ( Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:49 pm, reference page ) : I am continuing using the satellite images for day by day monitoring and evaluating. Ia any persons willing to come to Lusi (Sidoarjo mud flow) please contact me. Currently i habe acting as vice chairman of the implementing body for Lusi mitigating, my office located at Surabaya. Hardi Prasetyo
- Dr Hardi Prasetyo ( Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:39 pm, reference page ) : Thank you for providing a very usefull satellite image of Lusi 'sidoarjo mud flow' any one who interest to come to sea at the location please contact me. Curently ihave been apointed as the vice chairmen of the Implementation body for mitigating Sidoarjo mud flow (BPLS). My office in Surabaya jut 30 minutes drive to eruption center at Sidoarjo. Hardi Prasetyo
- Webmaster : Dear all, updated images from IKONOS and SPOT 5, both imaged on 5 Jun, are now available at our site. We are experimenting with the display of SPOT 5 image using HSV colour (USGS Munsell). You are welcome to comment on the image that is displayed in HSV colour at this page.
- Chusnun Hadi ( Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:50 pm
, reference page ) : Thank. With Ikonos I can see about mud volcano in Sidoarjo, East Java.
- Henrik Larsen ( Monday, May 14, 2007 9:49 pm
, reference page ) : HI. What kind of mud is this. It's water, oil and minerals, but what kind? Maybe its valuable! But this is a huge amount. Even a barrel of mud is almost impossible to handle, this is a landscape of mud. You can't pump it, move about in it even with dozers, Its heavy as stone, but liquid as water. FN should do something.
- Ihsan Isikyildiz ( Monday, May 14, 2007 8:03 pm, reference page ) : December 2006:I stopped at the mudflow area while travelling from bromo area to Surabaya. The dam was not breached, there were lots of white birds feeding in the paddy fields along the railway track. EVEN AT THAT TIME THE DAMAGE AND SUFFERING I WITNESSED WAS TERRIBLE, URGENCY OF HELP WAS TOO OBVIOUS. Such a help is always too slow. Any prospective tourist can indirectly help by visiting this magnificient country. That's what I'll do in June 2007 again,HOPE YOU PLAN IT TOO. IHSAN ISIKYILDIZ
- Webmaster : Dear Mr Prabudi, I used Google Earth and found that Sidoarjo was further north of the mud flow site, about 6.6 km away.
- Prabudi,Mr ( Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:05 am, reference page ) : I'm so sad look this picture. I've one question, Is Sidoarjo beneath by that mud ? Is Sidoarjo disapear from the map of Indonesia ?
- Peter Waterworth ( Sunday, April 29, 2007 8:17 pm, reference page ) : I travelled last week from Malang to Surabaya airport by minibus, a 4 hr journey that normally took 1.5 hr. Mud had covered padi fields and destabilised and destroyed homes. Mud blocked drains causing flooding. Our trail went through ten or so villages where enterprising villagers had set up road blocks to extort money from passing traffic. We were stopped about 20 times and demands for money were made. Devastating to local village economies.
- Webmaster : Dear Peter, here are a few news links of the mud flow I have found by searching the web : news link : (1), (2), (3).
Hope you find the news useful.
- Peter Jennings ( Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:49 pm, reference page ) : The 22 April image appears to show a bund has been built around the main source vent of the mud. Are there any reports on the status of the operation to lower linked concrete balls into the conduit?
- Webmaster : Dear all, most recent image taken on 22 Apr 2007 is now available on our web page : http://www.crisp.nus.edu.sg/coverages/mudflow/index_IK_p17.html. There are also kml files available for downloading on the main page : http://www.crisp.nus.edu.sg/coverages/mudflow/index.html.
- Hardi Prasetyo ( Monday, April 9, 2007 2:13 pm, reference page ) : My name Hardi Prasetyo, from Mistry Energy and Mineral Resources, very soon i will involve with 'mudflow Sidoarjo disaster', I very please if you have any idea, suggestion, dtc. Hardi Prasetyo
- Hardi Prasetyo ( Monday, April 9, 2007 2:09 pm, reference page ) : Thanks so much for your helps by provided very informative dan usefull satellite images that area, very soon i will in charge with mitigation and rehabilitation program in disaster area. Hardi
- Webmaster : Dear all, most recent image taken on 31 Mar 2007 is now available on our web pages.
- M.A.hanafi ( Friday, March 23, 2007 9:35 am, reference page ) : it's very interisting picture, I am leaving in Sidoarjo City,about 7 km from the point of mud source, so I am very surprise seeing this picture. Accidently my office is just 3 km from the mud source. to day the mud already spread out was more than this picture taken ,and more than 13,000 family houses had been covered by mud and the main road from SUrabaya to malang is completely blocked.
- Webmaster : Dear all, due to current weather conditions over the mud flow region (very cloudy), our centre has no planned satellite imaging attempts of the region at this moment.
- Totok Kusdiarto ( Thursday, April 5, 2007 3:44 pm, reference page ) : Dear all, May I have the update satelite image of Mudflows in Sidoarjo as of March 22, 2007 and how's to get it. Thanks & Regards.
- Student from ABA Oman, Muscat (Grade 8) ( Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:06 pm, reference page ) : Hello would by any chance be able to tell us some information about the internally displaced people of Sidoarjo. Thank you very much in advance.
- Piet van den Berg ( Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:09 pm, reference page ) : The scale of this disaster is growing with 120.000 m3 mud per day, the government stating today "if the concrete balls wont work, we will let the volcano run its course." All the surrounding villages, the same destiny as Jatirejo, terrible, feel sorry for the affected people.
- Matt ( Thursday, February 1, 2007 3:15 pm, reference page ) : This is horrible. The oil company that drilled here should take 100% responsible. I feel sorry for the people who've been displaced by this mess.
- Webmaster : The web pages have been updated with images taken in Nov, Dec 2006 and Jan 2007. The news link section has been taken off but under the Related links section, I have included a link (situation reports) to Relief Web which includes some compilation of news reports.
- Piet van den Berg ( Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:53 pm, reference page ) : Very sharp images, showing the dynamics of whats happening there. Question arising is that the mud fountain has ceased, so where is the pressure from 3km deep now being released? Is it a good sign? Any images of november ? regards, van den Berg.
- Webmaster : Thanks to the news info provided by Peter, the webpages have been updated with new link to recent news. The web pages have also been updated with images taken on 20 and 31 Oct.
- Webmaster : Hi Peter, thanks for your comments. Currently we did not have images of the mud flow site in Nov. Our most recent imaging attempts were on 20 Oct (view browse image) and 31 Oct 2006 (view browse image). I'm sorry, I could not find any recent news report (Nov) of the mud flow from the web.
- Peter Jennings ( Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:19 am, reference page ) : Are there any current (November, 2006) images of the mud flow as well as any recent reports on mitigation efforts.
- Webmaster : Hi Tim, thanks for your comments. Looking at the page you are referring to ( http://www.crisp.nus.edu.sg/coverages/mudflow/index_IK_p3.html ), please correct me if I'm wrong, I suppose you were saying about the difference in the top and bottom image. The top image was captured on Oct 2005 while the bottom image was captured on Aug 2006. The difference was that there was no mud flow in the top image while there was mud flow in the bottom image.
- tim brabon ( Friday, November 10, 2006 11:23 am, reference page ) : why is the mud a different colour in the left of the second photo
- Adam Kadmon ( Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:24 am, reference page ) : Is the least worst option just to let it spread naturally towards the sea? Building dykes doesn't seem to help much. Sooner or later the natural outward expansion over the land will cease and the mud will fill in the nearby coast. It looks like it will be a matter of readjusting and rebuilding over decades.
- Jogelem ( Saturday, October 7, 2006 11:32 pm, reference page ) : The Mudflow was recorded flowed more than 120 m3/day in these images. it contains 30% solid and 70% water, its clearly need to flow the water to the sea. Dont flow the mud (solid). it could be a future natural resources for ceramics, bricks or spa product.
- Bobbie G. McGarey ( Saturday, October 7, 2006 12:55 pm, reference page ) : In July 2006 I traveled along the toll road that goes beside the flow. Then it was seeping over the road and they weren't sure the retaining wall would hold it and keep the road clear. We got a glimpse of the mud gyser spewing a distance from the roadway. From the van as we traveled the smooth-slick of mud did not express the depth of the mud covering until we saw the roofs almost covered. The fear remains there it is unclear how much more mud is to come out --where will it go?
- Royal Akin in California ( Friday, October 6, 2006 10:29 am, reference page ) : I tried to find the area on Google Earth, but unfortunately, it is obscured by clouds in the low altitude view. Congratulations for this fine presentation. I am surprised at the lack of worldwide interest in this weird occurence. Is there evidence of similar earlier events of this type?
- n ( Friday, October 6, 2006 8:32 am, reference page ) : try to find some use for it.
- Ir.DR.Psy.Rd.Lasmono Dyar ( Thursday, October 5, 2006 4:34 pm, reference page ) : Thank you for giving the possibility to actually see through sattelite pix. This pictures doesn't appear in our media here. I'm fighting against all odds of behaviour that has made the country at a level of vulnerability for high corruptive deeds. My column of articles since five years ago at www.indosiar.com/news/magicbrain, is a contribution for a clean naunce in the country.
- Ir.DR.Psy.Rd.Lasmono Dyar ( Thursday, October 5, 2006 4:11 pm, reference page ) : The Mud-event in Surabaya is a real human error,i.e. the decision making of them who own the Company. As a Lecturer of Psychorientology, we could have a 'remote viewing' of what is really happening in Sidoarjo, and seeing the source of it A nephew who is an expert on the field in drilling for an Oil Company. He has reported, since he also is an Alumni from Silva's System. It's a matter of not willing to invest more, and bearing the consequence ofit. Who is responsible for this catastrophe?
- jjp ( Thursday, October 5, 2006 2:03 am, reference page ) : why not aid mud going to the sea by preferential road?
- Erica--Canada ( Sunday, October 1, 2006 12:03 pm, reference page ) : This is completely ridiculous-I sincerely wish that I had the means to help the Indonesian people fight this battle. )
- Luca Siciliano ( Sunday, October 1, 2006 8:07 am; reference page ) : Quite preoccuping. It might be nice to publish a characterization of the mud...dw:afdw etc. Can't really think on possible applications otherwise, n'est pas?
- C. Joaquin ( Saturday, September 30, 2006 6:09 am; reference page ) : Perhaps an oil tanker (close to being decommissioned) could be used to siphon off a large quantity of the liquid mud.
- Webmaster : Does anyone has any suggestions or creative solutions to the mud flow problem in East Java? For example, can the mud be processed and turned into useful materials like construction materials for buildings and roads? I'm not an expert in this field, any professional suggestions are welcome.
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